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Following the format of the Retina 6K and Retina 5K *complete* list wiki threads.

Announced:

ASUS ProArt PA32KCX

Panel: IPS (4032-zone mini LED backlight) - 32" - 7680x4320 - 275 ppi - 60Hz - 1000/1200 nits (DisplayHDR 1000) - 1,000/1,000,000:1 contrast
Glass: LuxPixel AGLR (Anti-Glare, Low-Reflection)
Color: 10-bit depth - 97% DCI-P3 - 100% sRGB - 95% Adobe RGB
I/O: 2x Thunderbolt 4 (96W), 2x HDMI 2.1, DisplayPort 2.1; USB Hub (3x USB-A, 1x USB-C)
## built-in auto KVM
ASUS global site
TFT Central coverage (updated January 2025)
MacRumors forum thread

Available:

Dell UltraSharp UP3218K
- Released 2017
Panel: IPS (LED backlight) - 31.5" - 7680x4320 - 280 ppi - 60Hz - 400 cd/m² - 1300:1 contrast -
Glass: Standard (anti-reflective)
Color: 10-bit depth - 98% DCI-P3 - 100% sRGB
I/O: 2x DisplayPort 1.3; 3x USB-A downstream, 1x USB-A (power only), 1x USB-B upstream
## 3.5mm audio out
Dell site - MSRP $4,029 (originally $4,999)
Anandtech coverage (January 2017)

China only:

ViewSonic VG3281-8K
- Released 2023
Panel: IPS (LED backlight) - 31.5" - 7680x4320 - 280 ppi - 60Hz - 320 cd/m² - 1000:1 contrast
Color: 8-bit depth + FRC - 98% DCI-P3 - 100% sRGB
I/O: USB-C (96W), DisplayPort 1.4, 2x HDMI 2.1; USB Hub (3x USB-A downstream, 1x USB-B upstream)
## 3.5mm audio out
ViewSonic China site
TFT Central coverage (August 2023)

Discontinued:

Sharp 8M-B32C1
- Released 2021
Panel: IPS (IGZO) (Direct LED backlights) - 31.5" - 7680x4320 - 280 ppi - 60Hz - 800/1000 cd/m² - 1300:1 contrast
Color: 10-bit depth - 96% DCI-P3 - 100% sRGB - 100% Adobe RGB
I/O: 1x HDMI 2.1, 4x HDMI 2.0, 1x HDMI 1.4 (4K), 1x DisplayPort 2.1 (4K); 1x USB-B
## 3.5mm audio out
Sharp Europe site
UK Product Support
 
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The ViewSonic is not available outside of China, not even in Hong Kong.

I also noticed (and this was not the case a year ago, if I recall correctly) that it is no longer possible to navigate to the old Dell 8K on their site without knowing the model number. They are still selling it, but you won't find it if you are just browsing. 8K is no longer a listed resolution you can choose as you navigate/filter their products. I choose to take it as a good sign, that they are going to come out with a new 8K soon...
 
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there is a new BOE Panel in 8K with 120Hz and with a 4K 240Hz Dual Mode in 31.5".
I'm no expert, I work in the visual arts, not the gaming or display industries, but so far I'm aware of two other “dual mode” gaming display panels, both of which halve down to standard video resolutions when they double the refresh rate:

4K 2160p 240Hz becomes 1080p 480Hz (Acer Predator X32 X3) [OLED]
5K 2880p 165Hz becomes 1440p 330Hz (Acer Predator XB323QX) [IPS]

What’s the next step in this progression? Neither of the current “6K” resolutions fit into this. They don’t halve neatly down to a standard video resolution. Instead:

8K 4320p 120Hz becomes 4K 2160p 240Hz

So this news fits neatly here. I don't know what kind of GPU would be needed to drive it.

For fun, here’s a handy list showing these relationships:
  • 720p = HD = 1280x720
  • 1080p = Full HD = 1920x1080 (1.5x 720p)
  • 1440p = Quad HD = 2560x1440 (2x 720p)
  • 2160p = 4K Ultra HD = 3840x2160 (3x 720p; 2x 1080p)
  • 2880p = 5K = 5120x2880 (4x 720p)
  • 3240p = 5760x3240 (4.5x 720p; 3x 1080p)
  • 3600p = 6400x3600 (5x 720p)
  • 4320p = 8K Ultra HD = 7680x4320 (6x 720p; 4x 1080p, 2x 4K)
  • 5040p = 8960x5040 (7x 720p)
  • 5400p = 9600x5400 (7.5x 720p; 5x 1080p)
  • 5760p = 10K = 10240x5760 (8x 720p, 2x 5K)
  • 8640p = 16K = 15360x8640 (12x 720p; 8x 1080p, 2x 8K)
 
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Philips 328P8K - Announced 2017
Panel: IPS (LED backlight) - 31.5" - 7680x4320 - 280 ppi - 60Hz - 400 cd/m² - 1300:1 contrast
Color: 100% sRGB - 100% Adobe RGB
I/O: 2x DisplayPort 1.3; USB-A, USB-C

Much fanfare when they demonstrated it, but I can't find any indication that it was ever released.

 
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Another one, again I can't find any indication that it was ever released:

ViewSonic ColorPro VP3286-8K - Announced at CES 2021
Panel: IPS (LED backlight) - 32" - 7680x4320
Color: 99% Adobe RGB
I/O: Thunderbolt 3, DisplayPort, USB Hub
Press release (January 2021)
 
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re: Dell UltraSharp UP3218K.
There is a footnote:
A DIY driver board to reuse the LG LM315QU1-SSA1 (or SSA2) screen panel in the 8K Dell monitor is available.
The R1815 V2 (CY.R1815 V2) video board can be used to provide single cable USB-C, DP 2.0 and HDMI 2.1 inputs to the Dell 8K's screen.
Also to the iMac 27" 2017-2020, and the iMac 24" M1/3/4 2021-2025.
 
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Given Apple's history of 'retina' resolution branding, will the large majority of computer users effectively discern a difference between 6K and 8K in otherwise identical 32" displays? Assuming they don't do unrealistic maneuvers like try to read tiny text with their eyes 6 inches from the screen, etc... I believe 6K resolution at a 32" display size meets Apple's pixel density standard (roughly 220 dpi) for retina resolution, and in theory retina resolution is that beyond which the typical user couldn't discern higher resolution (at a typical viewing distance).

Put another way, to what extent is 'beyond retina' resolution of meaningful benefit?

If you want 8K over 6K, stands to reason it'll be more expensive and put more demand on your computer's graphics processing capability. It's costing you something, so what do you get in return (besides impressive sounding technical spec.s)?
 
Given Apple's history of 'retina' resolution branding, will the large majority of computer users effectively discern a difference between 6K and 8K in otherwise identical 32" displays? Assuming they don't do unrealistic maneuvers like try to read tiny text with their eyes 6 inches from the screen, etc... I believe 6K resolution at a 32" display size meets Apple's pixel density standard (roughly 220 dpi) for retina resolution, and in theory retina resolution is that beyond which the typical user couldn't discern higher resolution (at a typical viewing distance).

Put another way, to what extent is 'beyond retina' resolution of meaningful benefit?

If you want 8K over 6K, stands to reason it'll be more expensive and put more demand on your computer's graphics processing capability. It's costing you something, so what do you get in return (besides impressive sounding technical spec.s)?
If we set aside the obvious 8K Ultra HD television standard and all that it means, and we recognize that HDMI 2.2 (96 Gbps, double HDMI 2.1) has broken ground on 10K (2x 5K) for reference monitors (not sure but I think Thunderbolt 5 at 80 Gbps can also do it), I’m not sure what’s left. I can speak for myself, though…

The reason I’m sitting here contemplating spending ~$8000 for the ASUS 8K this year is because I’m an art historian, with experience both teaching and working in museums. It’s not that I need anything beyond Retina, I tend to zoom in when I want to look closely at a detail.

If I zoom out and step back to take it in, of course even Retina is overkill, but then I’m going to want to peer in, and that’s one reason I find myself interested in Liquid Retina on a large display.

There’s also a practical reason, in working with high-resolution images of art, the more real estate I can fit on the screen, the more efficient I can be.

But 32" is about as large as my desk and the room where I work can handle. I’d love to have two of them I could pivot to vertical and place side by side (so the LG 6K with its narrow, uniform bezels and no chin really appeals to me), but I don’t know. I like 27" 5K for reading and writing, I’m used to that, I’ve been using it for more than a decade now. For the visual arts, however, I could use more.

That’s why I’m so interested in all this, furiously updating the information in these new 6K and 8K threads as I learn more (also the old 5K thread, but that’s more out of curiosity and interest, not need.) I’ve been trying to do my homework, as it were. Like you, I want to know if it’s worth doing.
 
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