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Apple Banned Epic Games' Developer Account, So How Is Fortnite Coming Back to the U.S. App Store?
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a$$le is like the kid in the garden that takes the ball home when he is going to lose the game...
They are afraid, scared by somebody who has challenged them...
no, Epic signed the developer agreement back then and willfully and knowingly broke it. I honestly cannot recall right know what exactly they did, might have been payment related, but a court found that Apple had the right to do so.
There were like 10 or so lawsuits of which Apple won 9, Epic won the last one and the ruling lat week was that Apple needs to allow developers to have in-app links to websites that handle payment.
The ruling last week had nothing to do with the ban.
The knowingly submitted an app update that willfully broke Apple’s (and Google’s) rules by hiding a feature that allowed people to buy their in-game currency directly from Epic.
The judge found Apple wasn’t a monopoly, was allowed to ban third-party stores, was allowed to charge 30%, but that California law required them to link out (although they could charge a commission on said links).
Apple rightfully got smacked down for ignoring the order and lying about things related to the link outs, but that didn’t change anything else about the decision.
this is not actually about fornite, its the future of gaming, mobile gaming surpass pc gaming money.
There’s a significantly greater chance that Apple will just block Fortnite from being released lol. You can’t break the TOS of the platform and expect to be let back in. Selective application of the TOS based on the size of a developer is frankly, stupid
I go to an store and notice that their price tags are incorrect and I’m being overcharged, which is illegal.
I then cause a huge scene to the point where I’m kicked out and banned from the property.
Then I sue over being overcharged and I win, forcing the store to fix their price tags.
Winning that lawsuit doesn’t mean the store is required to let me back in.
There’s no order requiring Apple to let Epic back in their store even if they have to change some of their rules.
I then cause a huge scene to the point where I’m kicked out and banned from the property.
Then I sue over being overcharged and I win, forcing the store to fix their price tags.
Winning that lawsuit doesn’t mean the store is required to let me back in.
There’s no order requiring Apple to let Epic back in their store even if they have to change some of their rules.
So just to recap here epic put a link in there app that then took you to a website to make a payment to purchase V bucks by passing Apple’s IAP system and epic got kick off the App Store for that.
Yet the judge has ruled that developers like epic are now allowed payment links in their app to then bypass Apple’s IAP system and that’s not a win for epic and coupled with the zero commission aspect
Developer accounts are tied to your company’s EIN or DUNS number. You can’t just make a new one without verification.
No, Epic put in app purchases into its app that completely bypassed Apple’s payment system. Not a link.
Epic wanted Apple to be declared a monopoly and be forced to accept alternate app stores. They didn’t get that. They got something better than they had before, but I wouldn’t classify “losing on 9 of 10 counts” a win.
I would bet a week salary that if epic games signed up for a developer account with their existing information Apple would just allow it. They’re not going to go out of their way to handhold them back on, but if they just applied for one, it’s not going to get rejected. There’s a difference between doing nothing versus actively trying to block someone.
I agree 100% that Apple should let them back on the store (for PR purposes), but given Apple’s reaction to date, I really don’t think they will. Especially when the judge who made the recent decision regarding app linking has already ruled Apple doesn’t have to.
That ”peace proposal” tells you everything you need to know about how deranged Tim Sweeney is. What exactly does Apple gain by agreeing to that proposal? Getting a video game that they themselves kicked out, back into the app store, but now without any revenue to them?
Key detail here that many are missing is, this ruling does not say Apple can’t charge 30% on the app store. “Only” that it can’t charge for purchases not made in the app store. Which is still a big deal, but not the same as removing the “Apple tax” altogether, which is what Sweeney seemingly still wants. And that is a completely ridiculous claim.
Don’t forget: Epic’s goal here is not to get Fortnite back. It is to get the Epic store back, so that Epic can make money on other people’s games, rather than Apple. I fully support Apple giving them the middle finger on that for as long as physically possible, given Epic’s conduct.
Key detail here that many are missing is, this ruling does not say Apple can’t charge 30% on the app store. “Only” that it can’t charge for purchases not made in the app store. Which is still a big deal, but not the same as removing the “Apple tax” altogether, which is what Sweeney seemingly still wants. And that is a completely ridiculous claim.
Don’t forget: Epic’s goal here is not to get Fortnite back. It is to get the Epic store back, so that Epic can make money on other people’s games, rather than Apple. I fully support Apple giving them the middle finger on that for as long as physically possible, given Epic’s conduct.
That doesn’t make sense. It’s a very simple ban, that can be lifted probably by changing one entry in some database. It’s not like Apple is running around chasing Epic to be able to block them. If they don’t want to lift the current ban, why would they allow a new account from the same company?
Approving an app is not “doing nothing”. It is an actual review process where Apple actively approves the app. There is no scenario where Apple “looks the other way”.
I loathe “if Jobs were alive” arguments, but I’ll make an exception: Jobs would have driven the company to the ground before letting Tim Sweeney tell him what to do.
It’s funny to see that Apple is more afraid of EU regulators than the US court
While I kind of agree that Apple was not fair with their practices. Epic’s business practices are much more scummy with their targeting of minors and all that.
Also their times exclusives on the Epic store etc.
They tried frame their lawsuits against Apple as being altruistic but that’s complete BS, they don’t give a hoot about indie devs. It’s all about increasing their own profit!
Also their times exclusives on the Epic store etc.
They tried frame their lawsuits against Apple as being altruistic but that’s complete BS, they don’t give a hoot about indie devs. It’s all about increasing their own profit!