Encrypt the backup before it leaves the device, simple.
Additionally, what if I want to auto backup to my Synology, without a computer in the middle?
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Apple Hit With Class Action Lawsuit Over iCloud Backups
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Encrypt the backup before it leaves the device, simple.
Additionally, what if I want to auto backup to my Synology, without a computer in the middle?
California files lawsuits on almost everything and anything. Nothing new here. It is thrown out
This isn't an antitrust suit.
It's already been approved by a judge and court to continue. Opposite of being thrown out.
Oh, wonderful. Apple may lose some face but I walk away with $.85! I’m the real winner here (/s).
It isn’t thrown out but the amount of damages likely could be less or more.
Good! This always felt to me like a way to trick people into an iCloud subscription. And once you subscribe, it’s very difficult to go back. And if only it would work well. My iCloud storage keeps rising and I’ve been trying to clear as much space as possible, but it only goes up.
For fruit’s sake, 50 cents a month. Yeah, we are starving now because it’s like buying a car every month.
And do **you** trust some small software companies that promise to store your iPhone backups securely and always available on your Mac?
Of course, Apple is completely right here and will hopefully win.
I hope TimeMachine will be soon cancelled for the same security reasons. Which we will be all happy about.
And do **you** trust some small software companies that promise to store your iPhone backups securely and always available on your Mac?
Of course, Apple is completely right here and will hopefully win.
I hope TimeMachine will be soon cancelled for the same security reasons. Which we will be all happy about.
Was, until they changed their model and pricing structure. Now, they're just another greedy developer with what was once a good product at a reasonable price.
The kick his who has the key to decrypt the backup? if your phone is stolen, you need that to setup a new phone, as far as I can tell. That means the storage location needs to have access to your encryption key, opening your backup to being decrypted by them or third parties.
The price of a product has little to do with the cost to make it.
Can you create an on-device-backup using Google Drive, Dropbox, OneDrive etc? no? Then you have your answer.
Wait, what?
I use Time Machine to backup locally to my own disk.
Why on Earth would you want that "cancelled"?
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Apple could just bump the free amount if iCloud space to 10GB or 15GB and the lawsuit would be null. It's not like they couldn't afford to do it with very little affect on their bottom line.
Then again I just checked my iCloud usage and I have 12.4GB in messages backups... that's of course mostly photos and videos people have sent me. So maybe like 25GB should be the minimum these days.
Then again I just checked my iCloud usage and I have 12.4GB in messages backups... that's of course mostly photos and videos people have sent me. So maybe like 25GB should be the minimum these days.
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Seems like another of those spurious lawsuits demanding free access to Apple's hard work.
iCloud is not the "only" way to backup one's iPhone or iPad, despite what the plaintiffs try to claim.
Is the free iCloud tier too small?
Well, it's 5GB for free compared with 10GB on DropBox or Cloud, and 15GB on Google, so really it could probably do with a bit of an increase maybe.
Paid versions?
Well, 2TB option prices across the platforms -
pCloud £9.99 pm
Google £7.99 pm
Dropbox £7.99 pm
iCloud £8.99
iCloud seems pretty similar to the main competition. albeit with a 50GB option for £0.99 pm.
Maybe Apple could drop the 99p subscription and offer the 50GB option for free?
Of course, if they did that, then the same companies would be whinging that it's not fair and Apple are being anti-competitive by offering so much storage for free...
iCloud is not the "only" way to backup one's iPhone or iPad, despite what the plaintiffs try to claim.
Is the free iCloud tier too small?
Well, it's 5GB for free compared with 10GB on DropBox or Cloud, and 15GB on Google, so really it could probably do with a bit of an increase maybe.
Paid versions?
Well, 2TB option prices across the platforms -
pCloud £9.99 pm
Google £7.99 pm
Dropbox £7.99 pm
iCloud £8.99
iCloud seems pretty similar to the main competition. albeit with a 50GB option for £0.99 pm.
Maybe Apple could drop the 99p subscription and offer the 50GB option for free?
Of course, if they did that, then the same companies would be whinging that it's not fair and Apple are being anti-competitive by offering so much storage for free...
As long as there are Non Apple phone makers and operating systems, using Apple products are a choice. Don't like the walled garden, please exit to the right. I hear Android is better anyway 😏
You want my ability to backup my Mac locally via Time Machine to be killed? What the hell? You can't backup your Mac to iCloud, even if you want to.
I don't use third parties to back up my data, including Apple. Locally and no where else.
More options is always better. But I'm not willing to handle encrypted keychains to another cloud service.
Why? Certainly none of them would have weak security, willing turn over your keys and encrypted files to third parties when asked, or use them to target certain individuals.
What? Apple offers 2TB storage for $11/month. Dropbox Plus offers 2TB storage for $10/month, which is (a) not close to 1/4 Apple and (b) only for 1 user. Google is also $10/month for 2TB.
"Apple should be forced to sell iPhones to other companies at cost so they can use the iPhone name themselves! Apple has a monopoly on their own products and it's ridiculous!!!"-Some idiot, somewhere
It would be nice to have a feature where you can back up to your own personal cloud like a NAS server.
Also keep in mind besides having a wired back up option, technically you can do wireless if you have a dedicated computer that’s on all the time, I guess a good way to repurpose an old Intel Mac. I’ve never had a lot of success with that, it’s not as automated as it should be.
Also keep in mind besides having a wired back up option, technically you can do wireless if you have a dedicated computer that’s on all the time, I guess a good way to repurpose an old Intel Mac. I’ve never had a lot of success with that, it’s not as automated as it should be.
Agreed, about 80% of my iCloud storage is photos. I wouldn’t need the 2Tb level if my family could WiFi backup just the photos to a NAS while they are asleep.
That's right, and because you know that, you'll also know that Apple controls one of the world's most premium brands. This is underpinned by the highest quality products. But storage is... Storage. It's binary. It works, or it doesn't work. It's impossible to apply branding to something that's binary like that.
Except we know with 100% certainty that users don't take responsibility for their own privacy and security, particularly older users and, somehow, Gen Zers. And when something goes wrong, as it surely will, those users will blame Apple and file more class-action lawsuits.
Apple charges the exact same amount for cloud storage as nearly every other provider.