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Okay I’ll bite. I bought a new phone this year..I didn’t get a 13PM, I bought the 14PM. For a few more dollars (from apples website)

- always on display
- sos via satellite
- crash detection
- multiple camera upgrades
- better battery life
- faster
- better display
- Bluetooth 5.3

So pay more, get more.

That list illustrates why I bought a 13 Pro instead.
 
You enjoy trolling the forums.

Okay I’ll bite. I bought a new phone this year..I didn’t get a 13PM, I bought the 14PM. For a few more dollars (from apples website)

- always on display
- sos via satellite
- crash detection
- multiple camera upgrades
- better battery life
- faster
- better display
- Bluetooth 5.3

So pay more, get more.

Scenes at the Apple Store when Bluetooth 5.3 hit

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The vast majority of that £150 increase is inflation. £1049 in 2021 is £1191 in November 2022.

If inflation in December is 1% (it'll be much higher), that iPhone 13 pro max that cost you £1049 in 2021 would now cost you over £1200. The 14 Pro Max is actually now cheaper than the equivalent 13 Pro Max in 2021 when it was released.

We've had high inflation in the U.S. yet iPhone prices weren't increased. I'd say the vast majority of the iPhone increase in the UK was related to the exchange rate.

The price of a 128GB iPhone 13 Pro in 2021 was £949 (incl. VAT) which on October 1, 2021 was around $1,281 USD.
The price of a 128GB iPhone 14 Pro in 2022 was £1,099 (incl. VAT) which on October 1, 2022 was around $1,231 USD.
 
Right?!? I’m almost there myself. As soon as they work on their software, hardware, security and drop Google from the picture, I’m sold!!!
Most security issues are not OS-related but due to poor cybersecurity practices from websites and financial and government institutions. If you were an Android user and have a propensity to install dodgy apps, then it's a user problem.
 
Not impressed; a cheap cash grab from a company already far beyond any historic norm for profit margins. It's time to treat these big tech firms as the monopolies they are; we're long past the point where creative destruction could have helped.
 
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Not impressed; a cheap cash grab from a company already far beyond any historic norm for profit margins. It's time to treat these big tech firms as the monopolies they are; we're long past the point where creative destruction could have helped.
Why would we need to destroy them?
 
Why would we need to destroy them?
"Creative destruction" is the libertarian economists' way of talking about how market competition produces more efficient outcomes. Obviously, it's unlikely that the post, say, 2001 Apple would be a candidate for disappearing, but the roughly 2001-2013 or so Apple was on its toes with market competition and was not really in a position where it could just take something for nothing. But the industry is far more static now, far more concentrated in the hands of a small number of big players, and customers far more locked into platforms, to the point where the only practical brakes on these firms are literally insufficient resources with which to make their products, customers simply opting out of these kinds of electronics and software altogether, or an extremely fraught and difficult platform switch to maybe one or at most two other options.
 
"Creative destruction" is the libertarian economists' way of talking about how market competition produces more efficient outcomes. Obviously, it's unlikely that the post, say, 2001 Apple would be a candidate for disappearing, but the roughly 2001-2013 or so Apple was on its toes with market competition and was not really in a position where it could just take something for nothing. But the industry is far more static now, far more concentrated in the hands of a small number of big players, and customers far more locked into platforms, to the point where the only practical brakes on these firms are literally insufficient resources with which to make their products, customers simply opting out of these kinds of electronics and software altogether, or an extremely fraught and difficult platform switch to maybe one or at most two other options.
It’s almost like someone shouldn’t have let google kill windows phone.
 
yikes... even with a good wage i'm slowly being priced out from the apple eco system

Not really.

There's tons of YouTube videos discussing budget-friendly options you can use to buy into, or stay in, the Apple ecosystem. Think about buying older models, refurbs, cheaper models, etc. There's no reason to feel like Apple is abandoning you.
 
Not really.

There's tons of YouTube videos discussing budget-friendly options you can use to buy into, or stay in, the Apple ecosystem. Think about buying older models, refurbs, cheaper models, etc. There's no reason to feel like Apple is abandoning you.

The new and exciting stuff doesn’t always go into those phones though does it? I would advise anybody who is spending around £700-£800 on a phone to do a bit more research and maybe look at other manufacturers. You’ll find you’ll get exciting tech at a cheaper price point, albeit on a different operating system which may or may not have drawbacks compared to iOS. I don’t think it’s as obvious these days though as smartphones have matured.
 
The new and exciting stuff doesn’t always go into those phones though does it? I would advise anybody who is spending around £700-£800 on a phone to do a bit more research and maybe look at other manufacturers. You’ll find you’ll get exciting tech at a cheaper price point, albeit on a different operating system which may or may not have drawbacks compared to iOS. I don’t think it’s as obvious these days though as smartphones have matured.

Yeah but the person I was replying to wanted to stay in the Apple ecosystem. Your suggestion just drives him away from an experience he clearly loves. A seamlessly unified cross-device experience that only Apple can truly deliver.
 
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Yeah but the person I was replying to wanted to stay in the Apple ecosystem. Your suggestion just drives him away from an experience he clearly loves. A seamlessly unified cross-device experience that only Apple can truly deliver.

It’s up to them to make their decision at the end of the day. We all love how seamless the Apple ecosystem is most of the time but that only goes so far if the premium for it becomes unrealistic. If Apple are starting to pay less attention to the mainstream iPhones and jack the prices up to justify the obscene premiums of the Pro series, it makes sense to see what you can get across the market as an alternative for some. I won’t be just confining myself to Apple if these prices stay as high as they are or increase further. I’ve used iPhones for over a decade and it’s becoming a bit of a Micky take.
 
Give me the features bells and whistles I’ll pay the price
Solid state buttons, underscreen Face ID ,periscope camera
 
2000 euros. You can do it Apple. Have courage.
Go for a Pro Max 1TB and there you have it :)


Totally agree with you, EU this year saw a huge price increase which did not occur in USA, so if prices rise up again in Europe this could be really bad for them.
Probably bad for Apple. Their massive 20% increase combined with inflation and reduced buying power will put a serious dent to the sales of these. Even a non-pro now is worth more than 1000$ (over 1000€)
 
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