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Following more than five years of development, Apple's long-rumored 5G modem will debut in the fourth-generation iPhone SE, the so-called iPhone 17 Air, and low-end iPads next year, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman.

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A new iPhone SE, iPad Air, and entry-level iPad are expected to launch as early as March, while the iPhone 17 Air should be released in September.

In a detailed report about Apple's modem efforts today, Gurman said the chip will be able to achieve theoretical 5G download speeds of up to 4 Gbps, which would be slower than Qualcomm modems in current iPhones. However, real-world data speeds are far slower regardless, so this may be a non-issue. As previously rumored, Gurman said Apple's first 5G modem will not support the ultra-fast 5G standard known as mmWave, but he does expect the chip to maintain support for dual-SIM, dual-standby functionality.

Apple has already been secretly testing the new modem on devices deployed to hundreds of employees around the world, according to the report.

For now, the modem is not expected to be used in higher-end devices, such as the iPhone 17 Pro models. Apple's switch away from Qualcomm modems will have risks, as solid performance for phone calls and cellular data is crucial. By testing the modem with lower-end products, Apple can mitigate this risk. Early issues with prototypes of the modem, such as excessive heat and power consumption, are said to have been resolved.

On the other hand, the report outlined some advantages of Apple's first modem compared to the Qualcomm chips, including lower power consumption, improved cellular network scanning, and satellite connectivity enhancements.

While designed by Apple, the modem is said to be manufactured by iPhone chipmaker TSMC.

Apple is rumored to have been working on its own 5G modem for iPhones since at least 2018, as part of a plan to reduce and eventually eliminate its dependance on Qualcomm. Earlier this year, Apple extended its 5G modem supply agreement with Qualcomm for iPhone launches through March 2027. In line with that timeframe, Gurman said that Apple hopes that its in-house modem will overtake Qualcomm's technology by 2027.

In 2017, Apple sued Qualcomm over anticompetitive practices and $1 billion in unpaid royalty rebates. The two companies settled the lawsuit in 2019, and Apple acquired the majority of Intel's smartphone modem business that same year. That purchase provided Apple with a portfolio of cellular-related patents to bolster its development.

Article Link: Apple's 5G Modem Expected to Debut in iPhone SE 4, iPhone 17 Air, and Low-End iPads Next Year
 
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MR: Apple can move mountains!

MR: Apple make the best SoC, they can make the best modem and completely switch out of Qualcomm in 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024......

MR: Once Apple uses their own modem they dont have to pay any patents!

MR: Apple's Modem will be integrated into its SoC! Making it more energy efficient!
 
MR: Once Apple uses their own modem they dont have to pay any patents!

They still have to pay Qualcomm a license. It's impossible to make a modern 5G cellular modem without infringing Qualcomm's patents.

The difference is negotiating posture. When Qualcomm is the supplier, you have to pay them whatever they ask because they have you by the balls on the supply-side and on the IP side. With a viable alternative on the supply side, there is room for negotiation.
 
Color me reeeeeeally skeptical on this.
Also because it could single-handedly ruin the next iPhone 17 Air.
 
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It'll be interesting to see what download speeds this new modem achieves connected to T-Mobile USA's mid-band 3GPP NR 5G network. On my iPhone 16 Plus, I've seen 1,600 megabits/second download speeds if I'm close to a cellphone tower, thanks to using the Qualcomm Snapdragon X70 modem.
 
Considering how valuable the iPhone is to Apple and how meticulous Tim Cook is, does anyone actually think that Apple hasn't done very extensive testing on this modem?

That they'd piss away the most valuable product and brand in the world to save a few bucks?

If you think the above, we must not be paying attention to the same company.

Apple may not be the innovative company they once were, but they are meticulous when it comes to HW.
 
It'll be interesting to see what download speeds this new modem achieves connected to T-Mobile USA's mid-band 3GPP NR 5G network. On my iPhone 16 Plus, I've seen 1,600 megabits/second download speeds if I'm close to a cellphone tower, thanks to using the Qualcomm Snapdragon X70 modem.

Apart from speed test results, what exactly do you need 1600 MB/sec on a phone for? Genuinely curious.

I don't think I would be able to use more than a 100MB/sec for anything even if tried REALLY hard
 
Apart from speed test results, what exactly do you need 1600 MB/sec on a phone for? Genuinely curious.

I don't think I would be able to use more than a 100MB/sec for anything even if tried REALLY hard

The poster didn't say it was 1600MB/s, they said 1600mbps which is approximately 200MB/s.
 
What would you prefer your cheap iPhone to be?

A modern phone with OLED screen Face ID, but no mmWave speeds, or an updated iPhone 8 with mmWave that no one uses?

Apple needs to cut costs to make that low-cost phone. If you want all the bells and whistles, it will come with a cost, and you can already buy that phone. It's called iPhone 16.
 
Considering how valuable the iPhone is to Apple and how meticulous Tim Cook is, does anyone actually think that Apple hasn't done very extensive testing on this modem?

That they'd piss away the most valuable product and brand in the world to save a few bucks?

If you think the above, we must not be paying attention to the same company.

Apple may not be the innovative company they once were, but they are meticulous when it comes to HW.
Yep. Apple will pick lower volume/low end models to launch. iPhone 17 air is new model, they can take a risk, and always scrap if it doesn’t sell well. It will be multi year roll out anyways.
 
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We all know this will be a Apple Designed Modem but still paying Qualcomm royalty fees behind the scenes 😁
 
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I am very curious to see how their modems perform. I also am curious to see how long it will take before their modem is in the Pro phones, if ever.
 
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